Futility Speaks for Itself

[TuTigers2012]

Longest tenured coaches in D1 along with their best finish.

 

Oakland Golden Grizzlies	Horizon League	Greg Kampe	1984–85	NCAA + Win
Michigan State Spartans	Big Ten Conference	Tom Izzo	1995–96	National Champions
Gonzaga Bulldogs	West Coast Conference	Mark Few	1999–2000	Final Four
Yale Bulldogs	Ivy League	James Jones	1999–2000	NCAA + Win
Saint Mary's Gaels	West Coast Conference	Randy Bennett	2001–02	NCAA + Wins
Baylor Bears	Big 12 Conference	Scott Drew	2003–04	National Champions
Kansas Jayhawks	Big 12 Conference	Bill Self	2003–04	National Champions
Purdue Boilermakers	Big Ten Conference	Matt Painter	2005–06	Final Four
Richmond Spiders	Atlantic 10 Conference	Chris Mooney	2005–06	NCAA + Wins
Northeastern Huskies	Coastal Athletic Association	Bill Coen	2006–07	NCAA
Northern Iowa Panthers	Missouri Valley Conference	Ben Jacobson	2006–07	NCAA + Win
Harvard Crimson	Ivy League	Tommy Amaker	2007–08	NCAA + Wins
Lehigh Mountain Hawks	Patriot League	Brett Reed	2007–08	NCAA + Win
St. Bonaventure Bonnies	Atlantic 10 Conference	Mark Schmidt	2007–08	NCAA
North Carolina Central Eagles	Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference	LeVelle Moton	2009–10	NCAA
North Florida Ospreys	Atlantic Sun Conference	Matthew Driscoll	2009–10	NCAA
Boise State Broncos	Mountain West Conference	Leon Rice	2010–11	NCAA
Clemson Tigers	Atlantic Coast Conference	Brad Brownell	2010–11	Elite 8
Colorado Buffaloes	Big 12 Conference	Tad Boyle	2010–11	NCAA 32
Creighton Bluejays	Big East Conference	Greg McDermott	2010–11	Elite 8
Iowa Hawkeyes	Big Ten Conference	Fran McCaffery	2010–11	NCAA 32
Oregon Ducks	Big Ten Conference	Dana Altman	2010–11	Final Four
Robert Morris Colonials	Horizon League	Andrew Toole	2010–11	NCAA
Toledo Rockets	Mid-American Conference	Tod Kowalczyk	2010–11	Conf Championship
UC Irvine Anteaters	Big West Conference	Russell Turner	2010–11	NCAA 32
Towson Tigers	Coastal Athletic Association	Pat Skerry	2011–12	Conf Semis

 

[sr16]

we dont even have lacrosse anymore. man this hurts. so much more since no nit. smh 

[Bay Area Tiger]

[Royal Tiger]

22 minutes ago, Bay Area Tiger said:

Unfortunately we were not playing UNCW or Charleston last night, so that NIL excuse cannot be made. What about the previous 13 years before NIL, or earlier when Charleston wasn't even in the league and UNCW was in rebuild/dormant years?

I will be supporting from afar moving forward, however if NIL is going to be the new go to year in and year out excuse, we should seriously consider moving to Am East, NEC, MAAC where we can be competitive financially. It is not logical to think that we cannot win a CAAT or compete long term with UNCW or Charleston unless we can complete with them NIL wise. We are not going to narrow the gap financial support wise no matter how hard the collective pushes, the gap is only going to get larger. So only option is to compete with them with mentally tough, skilled players (outside of Williamson, can only think of a few handful in the mentally tough department and knowing what it takes in the big moment) and sharp coaching (maybe in 2027 or whenever). Or if NIL is going to be the inhibiting factor moving forward, simply move down to a league where you can compete financially. To think that we will be able to catch up or even bridge somewhat of the gap to those southern schools is extremely far fetched and wishful thinking. 

[AtlantaTiger]

46 minutes ago, Bay Area Tiger said:

I'm guessing "Brentwood" is the same person as TTiger2024.  Evidently, all Towson fans are to be indebted to Pat Skerry, in perpetuity, for having cleaned up the mess of his predecessors and are to NEVER expect or desire more from him than what he has already delivered year after year.  We're all just a bunch of knuckle-dragging, ingrates.  How dare we want to go to the NCAA Tournament.  Give that man another extension!!     

[Blounge]

I looked up the Brentwood Partners and what do you know??? It’s Mike Waddell!

[TuTigers2012]

2 hours ago, Royal Tiger said:

Unfortunately we were not playing UNCW or Charleston last night, so that NIL excuse cannot be made. What about the previous 13 years before NIL, or earlier when Charleston wasn't even in the league and UNCW was in rebuild/dormant years?

I will be supporting from afar moving forward, however if NIL is going to be the new go to year in and year out excuse, we should seriously consider moving to Am East, NEC, MAAC where we can be competitive financially. It is not logical to think that we cannot win a CAAT or compete long term with UNCW or Charleston unless we can complete with them NIL wise. We are not going to narrow the gap financial support wise no matter how hard the collective pushes, the gap is only going to get larger. So only option is to compete with them with mentally tough, skilled players (outside of Williamson, can only think of a few handful in the mentally tough department and knowing what it takes in the big moment) and sharp coaching (maybe in 2027 or whenever). Or if NIL is going to be the inhibiting factor moving forward, simply move down to a league where you can compete financially. To think that we will be able to catch up or even bridge somewhat of the gap to those southern schools is extremely far fetched and wishful thinking. 

NIL excuse is just a weak crutch for these folks.  Charleston is paying 5 players 1.2 mill?   Remember half their roster is not from the US.  No money there. So how are they doing it.??!!

Also, hmm what do UNCW and Charleston have in common (besides campuses near the water) in the fall... hmmmm

2 hours ago, AtlantaTiger said:

I'm guessing "Brentwood" is the same person as TTiger2024.  Evidently, all Towson fans are to be indebted to Pat Skerry, in perpetuity, for having cleaned up the mess of his predecessors and are to NEVER expect or desire more from him than what he has already delivered year after year.  We're all just a bunch of knuckle-dragging, ingrates.  How dare we want to go to the NCAA Tournament.  Give that man another extension!!     

It has to be! I don't think AJ will be showing after last night.      But, but but,...He took a 1-31 team (that HE coached) and turned it around.  Every single person here is thankful for that... but it was 15 F'ing years ago.  I had hair 15 years ago!.  That was the end of the first Obama administration!  The fact that EVERY one on here (and the commentators on TV) mention it at nauseum, grinds my gears!  We are way more than 1-31 and a big turn around, we are also 0-6 in Semis and have not and will not make a move on the LONGEST TENURED COACH IN D1 HOOPS, TO NOT MAKE A FINAL OR NCAAT 

1 hour ago, Blounge said:

I looked up the Brentwood Partners and what do you know??? It’s Mike Waddell!

LMFAO no way?!

[TSU88]

3 hours ago, Royal Tiger said:

Unfortunately we were not playing UNCW or Charleston last night, so that NIL excuse cannot be made. What about the previous 13 years before NIL, or earlier when Charleston wasn't even in the league and UNCW was in rebuild/dormant years?

I will be supporting from afar moving forward, however if NIL is going to be the new go to year in and year out excuse, we should seriously consider moving to Am East, NEC, MAAC where we can be competitive financially. It is not logical to think that we cannot win a CAAT or compete long term with UNCW or Charleston unless we can complete with them NIL wise. We are not going to narrow the gap financial support wise no matter how hard the collective pushes, the gap is only going to get larger. So only option is to compete with them with mentally tough, skilled players (outside of Williamson, can only think of a few handful in the mentally tough department and knowing what it takes in the big moment) and sharp coaching (maybe in 2027 or whenever). Or if NIL is going to be the inhibiting factor moving forward, simply move down to a league where you can compete financially. To think that we will be able to catch up or even bridge somewhat of the gap to those southern schools is extremely far fetched and wishful thinking. 

Hate to say it, but I agree. If we’re doomed to forever being the Kansas City A’s (old school reference, but I think everyone gets it) to the NYY and L.A. Dodgers (C of C and UNCW) let’s get out and move to another conference where we can be competitive in NIL. I mean, why not? The conference we would move to would have the same number of bids (1) to the tournament as the CAA. 

And I also agree that even with the NIL discrepancy, that was a complete non-factor last night. And what about all the pre-NIL seasons where we failed to even make it to the conference championship game? 

The “he pulled us from the abyss” mentality cannot exist in perpetuity.  No, it’s time for new direction, plain and simple 
 

 

 

[TuTigers2012]

2 hours ago, Blounge said:

I looked up the Brentwood Partners and what do you know??? It’s Mike Waddell!

It is him! 🤣. I didn't have the old AD at Towson, calling fans out on twitter, to protect his hire from a decade & a half ago, on my bingo card!

Mikey seems to think Pat has 5 more years on that lifetime contract

17 minutes ago, TSU88 said:

Hate to say it, but I agree. If we’re doomed to forever being the Kansas City A’s (old school reference, but I think everyone gets it) to the NYY and L.A. Dodgers (C of C and UNCW) let’s get out and move to another conference where we can be competitive in NIL. I mean, why not? The conference we would move to would have the same number of bids (1) to the tournament as the CAA. 

And I also agree that even with the NIL discrepancy, that was a complete non-factor last night. And what about all the pre-NIL seasons where we failed to even make it to the conference championship game? 

The “he pulled us from the abyss” mentality cannot exist in perpetuity.  No, it’s time for new direction, plain and simple 
 

 

 

No, it was NIL why lost, plain and simple. Come on 88 you know better!!!

[TheGoldCrotchPiece]

2 hours ago, TSU88 said:

Hate to say it, but I agree. If we’re doomed to forever being the Kansas City A’s (old school reference, but I think everyone gets it) to the NYY and L.A. Dodgers (C of C and UNCW) let’s get out and move to another conference where we can be competitive in NIL. I mean, why not? The conference we would move to would have the same number of bids (1) to the tournament as the CAA. 

And I also agree that even with the NIL discrepancy, that was a complete non-factor last night. And what about all the pre-NIL seasons where we failed to even make it to the conference championship game? 

The “he pulled us from the abyss” mentality cannot exist in perpetuity.  No, it’s time for new direction, plain and simple 
 

 

 

Yes! I've been hammering us leaving the CAA for a while. All of our historical rivals are now gone. Our lax program is a joke these days - CAA lax is now a one bid league; just like MBB.

Let's go back to the America East - or start a splinter league. At least we can bully around UMBC most years.  All the America East football schools play in the CAA football already. 

Albany - FB
Bryant - FB
Maine - FB
UNH - FB
Vermont - No FB
UMBC - No FB
Towson - FB
SB - FB
W&M - FB 
Elon or Monmouth - FB

Bring Stony Brook and W&M with us from the public slide and Elon or Monmouth to pair with Bryant to have a private buddy, and that is a solid league all around. I'd gladly drop UMBC for any of these schools as well, but the regional little bro could work well for us.  Vermont can go join whatever league UNCW and CoC end up in; if that is what they want that. URI and Nova can follow us as FB affiliate members if they want or can go join the Patriot League like Richmond. 

The OG CAA died when Hofstra, and NE dropped football - it hasn't been the same league since.  JMU, ODU, UD, VCU, Mason - all woke up and smelled the coffee; Why can't we?