Tgr4life

1 hour ago, TSU88 said:

I think the comment/joke is borne of frustration, which I completely understand. Perhaps it’s an apples and oranges analogy but we’ve had two different HC’s take the WBB team to the finals of the CAAT tournament in the last 4 years, while the men’s team has yet to win more than 1 game in any CAAT tournament in over a decade under its coach.

If that’s not a fair comparison, how about the fact that every school in the conference since Skerry took the TU job (so I’m excluding NCAT, Monmouth, Stony Brook & Hampton) has been to the finals of the CAAT (disclaimer-Elon might be an exception. Even if so, that’s all 7 of the other schools (NE, Hofstra, Drexel, Delaware, W&M, UNCW and C of C). 

It might be interesting to see how many Towson sports have been to NCAA post season competition since the last time MBB has done that.

I heard that Skerry is going to analyze the NCAA tournament for 105.7. Probably the closest he will come to the event. 

9 minutes ago, Bay Area Tiger said:

Actually Pat be perfect guy to clean up the New Mexico State program. 

Can we all chip in for the airfare?

58 minutes ago, TuTigers2012 said:

Ok. We get that. But we are approaching another Ambrose/Kennedy scenario. Contract is running out you can: end this soon, give an extension or sit in your hands for 2/3 years of a lame duck coach 

Yup. Unfortunately same here. Moral victories can only go so far after all of these years. 

Hmm. I think that was mentioned (hawks did a great job of it!)

What if they come back? Another 20 win season and bounced before the finals. It’s not going to happen and honestly it’s for the best. They peaked. Solid players and ones who stayed 4/5 years. That’s rare but you are getting nostalgic of one regular season title. That was awesome but it’s not the goal. 
 

season was a failure 

We have very few donors with that kind of money. We only need 1 who is willing to step up. 

17 minutes ago, mat1992 said:

Ok, but be rational. We have very few donors who have that kind of money. Why would you waste their money on getting rid of a pretty successful coach who has three years left? It’s  way different than firing a field hockey coach or even a football coach with an expiring deal.

I understand what you are saying and I don’t totally disagree. However, if you talk the talk you had better walk the walk. This began with the comparisons of Michigan and Michigan State, etc. That was totally unlikely to happen. So, if none of that is true, at least be honest and say what the future is for the program. We are a mid major with not enough money to be a big time mid major. We are “another guy” in the world of mid majors. Hopefully the new fund raising Associate AD will get the job done and we can step it up.

25 minutes ago, RundaPower said:

Give it a rest.  We know ..we know. Your constant “ see , I told you so” is nauseating.  “Rinse, wash , repeat “.. “Choke job’. Thank you for enlightening us. 
*SD I’m still here

Even though I am a frequent critic of Skerry, I totally understand your point.

However, there are things that need to be said in a forthright manner. There are coaches that rise as the lights get brighter. Skerry is not one of those. There are coaches that….not always, but more often than not, get teams of great talent, teams of mediocre talent and teams of lesser talent to win big games. That is what separates them from the 20 game winning coaches. 
 

This moment presents the new AD to make his statement. If we can not buy out a coach, in what is as important financially as any sport we have, then Towson is not serious about athletics. TU has no problem firing Field Hockey coach for not winning or a baseball coach or a track coach, because that really does not cost them anything. Put your money where your mouth is. Then and only then will the donors, supporters and students have any real hope that athletics is significant……and if not, at least we know where we stand. 

10 minutes ago, TuTigers2012 said:

Yup. I mean there weee a few questionable calls but nothing over the top.  One team gets fouled and offensive rebounds and makes their fts. The other just hopes someone gets hot

In the end, the answer is pretty simple…..Charleston is better.

6 hours ago, mat1992 said:

 

Maybe because Towson fouled more?

Well…….the games that matter for this season start tonight. The exhibition season is now officially over!

14 minutes ago, Moleman1 said:

Please Lord, let the potent transition game we've had glimpses of be on tonight. Also help these Tigers w their FTs. Also assist the Black & Gold w 3-pt accuracy, defense without fouling and keep us from having turnovers. Lastly, bolster the supporting cast in taking pressure off the Big Three. Pave the way for us to get into the Dance! 

I know - a lot to ask for; but we're a desperate program, from an athletics department that's begging for something to be excited about for a rare change.. 

Amen

It never hurts to ask

1 hour ago, TSU88 said:

Good thing you weren’t around in 1976, to advise UVA, who went into the ACC tournament with a record of 15-11, and proceeded to beat #17 NC State; # 9 MD & # 4 UNC to win the tournament. I get it, that was a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, and you’re probably right about C of C vs Hofstra, but you just never know 

Villanova is still celebrating Rollie Massimino’s squad winning the championship over Georgetown. You are right…..you just never know.

26 minutes ago, TigerFan54 said:

I hope Steve E. has taken notice of Holden's dirty play of late and insisted Skerry address it. This sh*t is unacceptable if it happens once, but he' been a repeat offender. 

If it helps them win, I am not sure PS cares.

Clearly a very nice win. We will see if the momentum carries the Tigers forward. 

It is also noteworthy that 11 solid minutes does not a season make. We tend to forget all the things that caused us to be skeptical. Thursday, the kid May was a bum. He makes a three and suddenly he 8s Pete Maravich. Let’s just see how this all plays out.

2 hours ago, TuTigers2012 said:

10-1 start against weak teams (like this years horrendous schedule), is nice. But who was knocking down the door to hire pat in mid December?!  No one. Why not wait until the end of the year.  Also 8 years is a lot of time, where things can go wrong for both sides ..

 

12 years and counting with zero trips to the finals. And this isn’t our CAA, this is sr, 24, alums and the horses watered down CAA

Like I said, he knows how to pick an agent.

16 hours ago, TuTigers2012 said:

I mean Hofstra and Charleston are coached by guys who have been there for years.. oh wait, They are in their second years…

 

northeastern, Hofstra, Drexel, Delaware, Jmu, vcu, wm, uncw, Elon and Charleston all have been to a final during the Skerry era 

If you look back over the 12 years, the most important individual, the one who had the fate of TU basketball in his hands, is Skerry’s agent. Pretty sad state of affairs.

3 minutes ago, ReverendRemulak said:

I know we aren't supposed to be positive about anything related to this team, so I apologize in advance 2012, but Nick has been awesome lately. I think he has 25+ in 5 of our last 7? Most career 3 pointers is pretty cool and he has a shot at the single season record as well. 

Moving beyond the positive from the game, I've said it before and I'll scream it over and over - if CT or Cam could consistently step up and play to even 50% of their potential, we would be a threat to make a run. Maybe if we don't foul so much (they shot 35 free throws!) or could hit our free throws (even the worst FT shooting teams can manage to shoot above 58%) we're feeling better today. I'm fully aware that if ifs and buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a merry Christmas so it doesn't really matter. Just extremely frustrated. It was said over and over that this game didn't matter and I get that. I didn't expect us to win. It's just so annoying when we go out and do the Towson thing of almost getting there and falling apart. 

The program feels stuck. We aren't the 1-31 team anymore, but we aren't doing much more than 19-20 wins and an early exit from the tournament at best. I'm sick at the idea of looking back at this team and the last two years and having very little to show for it. Here's hoping I'm wrong. 

Just enough wins to get a coaching extension, but not enough to matter....That is this teams MO

There really is nothing new to say about this team. Whenever the game is close and coaching matters.....coming up with a set or a play that can make the difference, this coaching staff is nowhere to be found. In Skerry's own words. ...That's been our MO...to Finish....Haven't done that yet.....Coach, look in the mirror and you will figure out why this team has not finished games.

29 minutes ago, Blounge said:

Anyone going to the CIAA tourney in Baltimore this week?

somebody will probably go................................just a joke.

Just take this one at a time. Appreciate tonight’s win, but now"…………..only talk about Saturday. That’s one of the things that makes this time of year difficult…..you look at the scoreboard, but more than ever, you need to retain singular focus. That is the responsibility of the coaching staff.

1 minute ago, TSU88 said:

It’s inconceivable how a college player in his 5th season, who is supposed to be one of the leaders on the team would commit such a foul. A high school freshman I could understand. Is it poor basketball IQ, poor coaching, a combo of the two? Just infuriating, especially in conjunction with him shooting what, 1-9 from the field last night, or something similar 

Any coach worth his or her salt will tell you.....Physical mistakes happen....but there is no excuse for mental errors. This team makes way too many mental errors to be a competitive squad at a high level.

17 minutes ago, sr16 said:

There is just never any emotional development or increased mental acuity as the season goes on. Timberlake making a mistake you expect maybe May to make.. Senior fouling with under 2 seconds as they are hightailing it from one side of the court to the other is just downright horrible. 

The players should read Pete Carrill's book outlining his philosophy.....The strong take from the weak, BUT The Smart Take From The Strong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

4 minutes ago, Blounge said:

True, I guess we can add savvy business person to Skerry's skill set. He saw a good opportunity to get paid in a stable role. Good for him, he tricked the interviewer into giving him the job.

Sort of like the salesman who sold boys bands to River City, Iowa

3 minutes ago, TSU88 said:

Well, he is a good guy. They taught me in law school that truth is an absolute defense. He’s also an abject failure at getting to even the the championship game of the conference tournament, which by extension means he’s an abject failure at getting to the dance. More than 1 thing can be true at the same time-he’s a good guy and a failure as a coach, if the metric is winning the conference championship and going dancing. I stand by my prediction that unfortunately I don’t believe he will ever get us to the promised land. Boy would I love to be wrong and have to eat a heaping helping of crow, but I doubt that will ever be the case. But, due to that nonsensical contract extension he got, he’s not going anywhere for the foreseeable future. Wash, rinse, repeat. Same as it ever was, same as it ever was 

Don’t really want to get into a debate over who is a good guy and who is not, because it is totally irrelevant. He is paid to win meaningful games……and he does not. However, he clearly knows how to choose the correct agent to negotiate a contract. Everyone has their own talents.

8 hours ago, TSU88 said:

He’s a nice guy, great family man, graduates kids and generally is going to W 18-20 games a year. I guess that’s enough for some, especially those who fall back on the tired refrain of “look at what a mess the program was when he took over.”

What he isn’t is a clutch, big game coach, who will get the program to the dance. For that matter, his track record is, as you point out, dismal in the conference tournament. His teams are a reflection of his limitations as a coach-utterly incapable of winning the close ones. Reminds me of a comment I read years ago by a scout talking about an NFL QB (don’t remember which one, not that it matters) “he’s just good enough to lose.” 

 

 

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to say “what a good guy”. That’s when you know that it’s all over.

9 hours ago, Blounge said:

It sucks we have so many what if’s with this program. What if Gibson was healthy? What if CT didn’t get hurt in the tournament last year? What if Johnny Davis didn’t get shot during the JB run? What if CT made his two free throws against CofC? Ugh mind boggling 

With all due respect........what ifs are brought up by folks who have lost. Championship teams overcome the obstacles. Whether it is the players who suck it up and get the job done.....or coaches who figure out ways to overcome obstacles.....that is what makes them champions. Not sure we have either. What if Jeffrey Maier had a cold and could not have gone to the Oriole Yankee game!....none of them matter.