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I'm not going to get into it with our resident sports management professor, but college is expensive and the athletics fees suck. But 2006, your employer nickle and dimes its students for almost everything (as does every other college), and there are some fee's for services that other students don't use buy are stuck paying. Fees per year of similar and conference schools: Towson $998 in state $956 out of state (2019) University of Maryland $812 (2018) William & Mary $1,980 per year (2018) James Madison $2,058 (2019) VCU $828 (2018 not sure if per semester or yearly) College of Charleston $1,236 (2016) UNCW $750 (2017) George Mason $1,752 (2019; other items included, not solely athletics) UMBC $1,074 (2017) Univ of Albany $582 (2017) Univ of New Hampshire $1,075 (2019) Stony Brook $572 (2019)
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Maybe doing the grunt work, but not the actual ticket staff that are to be calling. They typically have 2-3 that are not interns, however there is high turnover in that. $2,100?? Are you speaking of student athletic fees?
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This thread asked for ideas so how about the athletic department makes a big deal out of the fact that the games are not actually free to students but that they are paying $2100/year for SECU and to be season ticket holders for every single team on campus? Instead of looking at it as the games being “free” maybe more students would be inclined to go if they looked at it as “well I’m paying for it anyway may as well go”?
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That office is largely staffed by interns...e.g students who are paying for the privilege to work for free to sell tickets to teams that they pay for in student fees in stadia that they pay for in student fees in return for academic credit. Oh yes and by doing a job for free that someone should get paid to do they also undercut their entry level salaries...Do you really think they care about one of the 274 season ticket holders needs? Would you? I get that it sucks not to get the care you should for the money you pay but that’s going on as well.
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The problem with this vision was Caret/Waddell wanted to make Towson to UMD as NC State is to UNC or Michigan State is to UM which is basically an impossible analogy to fulfill. We are in the CAA with a $70 million endowment whereas they halve endowments at or near a billion and play in the ACC and BIG. They are also R1 institutions and Towson is not, which means big grants and nonsense that matters to them doesn’t to Towson as much. Plus the USM would have to approve of us being a true sister school to UMD which wouldn’t go over well with other institutions in the consortium. My favorite part of this whole thing is Caret and Waddell also often said sport was the front porch to this school, but the former presided over our largest period of student population growth in 30 years and we sucked at the “revenue” sports. Must have been the reverse front porch or something...or sport means jack all to Towson students outside of the select few who post here, go to games, etc. There really isn’t a lot that can be done about that.
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They do promote the games on 1057 FM. Just heard a commercial this morning, but it was promoting the Vermont game on Saturday night on 1300am. I assume the promo on Monday will mention the UMBC game. But yes, they are having a coat drive and should promote a rare home game in December a bit more than just radio ads.
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Game Tuesday against UMBC. A team, most fans/students, know due to locality and the NCAA tournament. What are they doing to put butts in the seat and promote this game? Crickets?
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https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/bs-sp-towson-volleyball-olivia-finckel-camryn-allen-20191205-apew4p3vmbg2xpmkv5o5nmjk6u-story.html
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What the heck is going on in that Athletic Office/Ticket Office? With attendance and season ticket bases being so low it should not be hard to cater to those who do have season tickets. Plus the second the phone rings it should be answered. There is no way someone like TSU86 should have to call multiple times in order to try and buy tickets. Not surprising but although they should I am sure no one from that department follows this board. With everything else it makes no sense. Unfortunately we do not have a huge following, but because we do not have a huge following it should be easier for that department to tend to those with interest. I spent over 20 years working in the sales/ticket office for a professional sports team with I am sure five times the size of Towson's football and season ticket base combined and not returning any call was inexcusable. I know it cost money to advertise but you know what doesn't cost anything? Email. Students have email addresses, they have alumni email addresses that is a quick and inexpensive way to get the word out. You can't build something if the people tasked to build are not building. The last two post are frustrating and sad.
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Not surprising. No promotions, no advertisements, awful ticket office (I had to call them numerous times to renew my season tickets that I've had for 6+ years!). Seems like they put all their eggs in one basket, for the Villanova football game (which they did a great job for that one, and it worked as the crowd was very good), and then nothing for the rest of the season or for hoops.
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I have reached out to the ticket office 3-4 times in the last 2-3 weeks asking if the flex plan will be available for men’s BB — no response at all !!! i am pissed !!!! In the business world, this is unacceptable. They must have art students running things
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One of your kids coming?
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An 18-0 run propels MBB over Morgan State, 76-59
mat1992 replied to mat1992's topic in Tiger Basketball
Much better view of Fobbs dunk -
It's both. Attendance at 95% of sporting events, pro or college, is down. That is a fact. The University does a bad job promoting and the students don't care/won't care. That's also a fact. Baltimore and Maryland itself is not a great sports area. It just isn't. UMBC coming off the UVA upset, and a brand new arena, barely average 1,450 people last year. Maryland is (and it pains me to say) very good and even they aren't drawing.
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Its not about not caring about sports.... Its a cycle and we are not breaking it.. I tried but only moved the needle as we had internal forces which we all know about (school admin) roadblock us. When I was a freshman in 2012 everyone in our dorm went to the first couple of football games. Then what happens is you meet sophomores + older students and they could not give one f about our sports programs (actually other than Lax I found & the Temple game). On weekends at parties, sports are on the TV ie college basketball/football. Its our own issue. Its a cycle which we need to break. Cant only target freshman because they follow the lead of older classes
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Agree with your first point. But America East would increase travel costs. Some of those schools are a haul.
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Again, as so many have stated before, it is the job of the administration to come up with ways to get folks in the stands. That is why we have so many administrators making 6 figure salaries. They just have not done their job. The fact is that it is a hard thing to do at Towson, that is getting folks in the stands. Maybe that tells you where the student body wants to prioritize or in fact deprioritize sports. Instead, we just keep paying administrators more and more to not improve the situation. Don't blame the coaches for the extensions and salaries. If an adminstrator is willing to throw these numbers out, all the coach is doing is taking it. Based on our funding and fund raising, the America East is a better fit.
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Wait until you guys get a look at the 2021 recruiting class! I guess that won't be until LOI signing day next year.
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An 18-0 run propels MBB over Morgan State, 76-59
TSU88 replied to mat1992's topic in Tiger Basketball
I agree that it was a late arriving crowd. Maybe classes just got out 🤣 -
An 18-0 run propels MBB over Morgan State, 76-59
TuTigers2012 replied to mat1992's topic in Tiger Basketball
"announced" attendance. I was there and there was no way in hell that there were only 400 empty seats... And 1/3 of people didn't show up until HT -
Had we not lost Simpson, our record would have been better.
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An 18-0 run propels MBB over Morgan State, 76-59
TSU88 replied to mat1992's topic in Tiger Basketball
Attendance at Morgan last night was 3,789; capacity is 4,200. This on a Wednesday night, where the home team came in with a record of 3-6. SECU is in its 7th year. In the 1st season, 2013-14, we had 4 crowds that exceeded the attendance at Morgan last night. Since then, only 1 time, in 2/15, vs Delaware, have we had a home attendance higher than what Morgan had last night -
An 18-0 run propels MBB over Morgan State, 76-59
mat1992 replied to mat1992's topic in Tiger Basketball
It’s important to play at least two local teams a year, but beating these teams is expected. Losing is devastating. -
An 18-0 run propels MBB over Morgan State, 76-59
mat1992 replied to mat1992's topic in Tiger Basketball
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He used Dottin and Gibson at the same time near the end of the game. That helped some.
