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Another solid pick up for Charleston in the portal

9 hours ago, sr16 said:

actually though I wonder where it goes, the portion that is set for the athletics dept. 

My guess would be facilities, equipment, travel, scholarships etc (hopefully)

1 hour ago, AtlantaTiger said:

Will any of that money be going to secretive contract extensions for any of our coaches? 

That’s for Steve and the coach to know and for us to not find out (until a year later)

35 minutes ago, TSU88 said:

If you require any more proof that NIL has basically killed mid major basketball, of the 15 top CAA players last season, based on 1st, 2nd and 3rd team all conference selections, 10 of them were eligible to return & play this upcoming season. 9 of the 10 entered the portal. And the one who did return, entered the portal then withdrew. While concededly not a math major, that’s 90% who bolted. So, what we have here is a perpetual hampster on the spinning wheel, where mid majors who have successful years will have to rebuild every year. That includes mid majors who bring in successful portal players, as they either only have 1 year of eligibility, or, if they have more than one year, they’ll kick their existing school to the curb, in the never ending money chase. Frankly, I wonder how these guys who go to a different school each year ever actually graduate. The other big scam is the “graduate transfer.” I’d love to see how many of those guys actually get a masters degree. I suspect the answer is very few. 

Yup. Seen some guys out there 4 schools in 5 years or even better 5 schools in 6 years.  (Estrada from Hofstra is one who has been all over the country) There was one this week who started at Gardner Webb, transferred to Vanderbilt, then to Georgia State and then back to Gardner Webb. There's no way all of those credits transferred and re-transferred.  But this is what people wanted, players, sorry I mean STUDENT athletes, to have all the power and make money "Legally" and transfer with no consequences.  Great lessons taught, if you don't play just leave. That'll work out well in the real world... 

With that said coaches need to and can win now with the portal. Shouldn't be seeing massive year extensions anymore at this level

56 minutes ago, mat1992 said:

First of all, even though I want to see one more tournament title before I pass, I'm depressed about the state of mid-major basketball after the loss of Trazerian White. UNCW or Towson or pretty much any school outside of Charleston, has no real chance of keeping a player of that magnitude. I'm surprised it took him that long to decide, because I assume he's going to get more than Timberlake (low 6 figures). Unlike some of these other transfers (Jyare Davis to Syracuse), who are going for the money and are rotation players at best at that level, White is good enough to start at the 3 along with Dubar (even though both were 4s in the CAA 4-guard hemisphere) at most high major schools. 

We have some NIL, but we're using it to retain players. That's pretty much what was said on that zoom call last year with Richard Kent. The key to mid-majors in this new climate is to retain your top talent. But there are transfers out there who can help. The problem lies with what type of player can you get with no money and can they help you right away? I'm looking at the 5 and combo guard as the biggest needs. Embeya is going to need help and will likely get in foul trouble. I just don't see Paar/M. Jones as the answer if you need a guy who can play 15mpg at center. 

In the backcourt, assuming Radhir Hicks returns from his concussion (he's had multiple), then you still need another player who can play the point because Hicks, even in a backup role, Tarke isn't him and Lowery, while probably getting a bigger role this season, is still learning at the point or point forward. 

It's possible we stand Pat, but in a year where the league is now wide f-ing open, we need to put the best possible team on the floor that money can't buy. 

Having eye surgery next week and two weeks after that. Hopefully, I'll get a chance to see the team in early June when Embeya and Ndefo arrive. Embeya, IMO, is the most important freshman addition in years. He needs to be good enough to replace Charles at the 5 and I think you'll get a more athletic and more skilled player even to start. But rebounding and defense will be huge concerns, especially with more of a four-game lineup expected.

Now, we'll never know what Marcus Watson would have turned out to be and Tarke's half year was disappointing to say the least. Those are players with skills above a Sulaiman, M. Jones, N. Russell, Sylla, who were transfers from the previous two classes. 

C Embeya, Paar, Jones

PF Tejada, Sulaiman, Coleman

SF Lowery, Ndefo

SG May, Tarke, Cole

PG Williamson, Hicks, Tarke

Embeya doesn't need to be as good as Charles, atleast to start.  The intangibles outweighed the skill. But we really need him to stay on the court and out of foul trouble.  Too bad we can't exchange 2 of the PF/C's on your depth chart..

Obviously things can and will change but as of now, below is currently the top numbers of scorers from last season that teams are losing, due to graduation or transfer:

Charleston- 1,3,4,5,6,7,8

Elon- 2,3,6,7

Drexel- 1,2,3,4,5,9,10

Hofstra- 1,2,3,4,6,8

UNCW- 1,2,3,4,5,6

Delaware - 1,2,5,6

Stony Brook- 1,2,3,4,5

Monmouth- 1,3,5,8

Campbell- 1,2,7,9

NE- 1,2,5,9

Hampton- 2,4,5,6,7,8,9,10

A&T- 1,4,9

WM- 2,5,6,8

Towson- 5

33 minutes ago, Blounge said:

CofC will look completely different next year. All new Coach and players. For our sake hopefully they fall off from where they had been under Kelsey

Brzovic is back, Mack is a good coach and they brought some transfers in. Still going to be at the top of the league,

56 minutes ago, Blazer49 said:

Sorry kid hard pass.  If you misspell the name of a school you got an offer from, that offer should automatically be revoked.  How can you truly be "more then blessed" if you do not spell the name of the school correctly.  I understand kids make mistakes we all do, but you need to "thank my family and coaches" for proofreading this before it was posted.  It is literally spelled out for him 6 different times in the 3 pictures he posted in his tweet.

 

😂 agree

1 hour ago, TSU88 said:

I didn’t see this one coming. I assumed UNCW, being a basketball only school, with what I assumed is a passionate fan base, had deep enough NIL pockets to bribe White into staying, at say $50,000 or so. Assuming he leaves, I suppose it stands for the proposition that even a well funded CAA program can’t compete with the dollars offered by a motivated P5 school. 

As for us adding 1 or 2 players, I’m skeptical. Even if we do, are they going to move the needle? I doubt we can persuade any D1 player who averaged in double digits to come here. It may very well be that Holden, who we got right before NIL exploded, will be the last D1 portal guy to come here (maybe not forever, but then again who knows) who averaged in double digits at his previous school. So, that leaves us fighting for scraps from the D2/NAIA bargain bin. If that means more Sylla and Suliaman types, what difference does it make. I don’t include JUCO, as I can’t remember the last time we brought a JUCO in. 

What I find interesting is that if you glance at the players our assistant coaches are following in their respective twitter accounts, there’s a lot of foreign big men, which I assume is because foreign players are not allowed, under U.S. immigration law, to partake in NIL. 

 

 

 

I would take a mid Major player who scored 7 points a game over what our last 3-4 players on bench currently…. 
Don’t need to move the needle far, the CAA will be bad next year with almost every good player leaving. We just need to move it far enough and hope that Chris Mack and skerry get suspended for the CAAT 😂 

Just now, mat1992 said:

And it continues 

https://x.com/tiptonedits/status/1783452756126097605?s=46&t=nScacl1TWT-KyOwj5stBaw

Would be a big blow for uncw and the league.  Really wish we could add one or two more players to this roster 

1 hour ago, mat1992 said:

At the moment, no. If they find someone they like who won’t cost NIL, they might make a move.

If it means one of the end of bench guys gets replaced, the new player can have whatever's currently in my wallet (not much) in NIL

45 minutes ago, TSU88 said:

There simply aren’t enough D1 teams to soak up 1,700+ transfers, at least I don’t think. I mean that would come out to an average of what, each D1 team picking up 5 transfers. I guess some will go D2; some will scramble back to their original school. We all hear about the players who transfer to other D1 teams, but I wonder what happens to the ones who are left looking for a dance partner when the music stops?

And that doesn't take into account the D2/D3/Juco players who move up (and dominant, as long as they play between Meeting & King Streets 😂). If there are ever some looking for a partner when the music stops, there's always PFO at TU!

Obviously 1,700 aren't all scholarships, but 13 scholarships x 351 teams is 4,563. So we are looking at ~ 40% in the portal.  College sports has quickly become s*it!!

Amari Williams to Kentucky.  Wow, I know I’m one that’s never been impressed by him And believe he was vastly overrated but Kentucky?! He had trouble with Charles freaking Thompson!

34 minutes ago, mat1992 said:

As mentioned in this interview above, Towson is adding 10 more scholarships to programs that are not fully funded 

https://x.com/towsontigers/status/1780991289410117959?s=46&t=nScacl1TWT-KyOwj5stBaw

Good to hear. Would be nice to have a semi competitive baseball program. 
I do find it interesting to that we are “so far behind” our league peers. And would like to know if that’s because they are most private schools? Or that’s they don’t play football?

Uncw adds another good player. 10-7 a game BIG from Niagara.  The rest of the CAA is playing for 3rd behind the hawks and cougars 

34 minutes ago, TSU88 said:

Marcus, we hardly knew ya, but we’ll always have Montreal. Vaya con dios 

 

Don’t you mean, allez avec Dieu? 

😂
 

But in all seriousness, him and Charles are subbed out for the incoming two freshmen so scholarships are all used. There are 2-3 non d1 players on this team and another total question mark. Not great. 
 

On the bright side maybe the staff, instead of worrying about finding replacement players in the portal, is working non stop on developing an offensive game plan. Who am I kidding… they aren’t. 

1 hour ago, Bay Area Tiger said:

Already working on a vendor to sell lumpia at home games once we land our first Filipino born player.  
 

PS- Nolan Richardson today in an interview said coaches should not be around more than 5 seasons if they haven’t won anything and furthermore said today’s basketball fans expect results right away given the portal.  😉

Well Nolan hasn’t met our gleeful mediocre accepting fanbase and AD!

14 minutes ago, Bay Area Tiger said:

I’m working on a pipeline to Manila 🇵🇭 via my barber 💈 shop..   are we still planning to play small ball next 3-4 seasons?

Small ball or stall ball?!  As long as they can hedge, rebound and not run any offense in close games, they have a spot! Well not actually, since everyone is returning…

1 hour ago, mat1992 said:

Easy and predictable win today 25-2 over Hampton. It's like playing a D2 team in hoops or football, but you don't have a choice because this is a conference opponent.

That D2 team beat us in hoops…. Not sure why they are in the league, look at their records in football basketball lacrosse women’s hoops volleyball and women’s soccer the first two seasons. Rough is an understatement.

2 minutes ago, TSU88 said:

So interestingly enough, I read that the ban on NIL for foreign players isn’t actually an NCAA thing, but rather such payments are banned under U.S. law

 

 

 

Yeah because they are on a student visa they aren’t eligible or something.  Speaking of Mack just landed a big foreign kid from Xavier. 
 

Again, if we have no NIL money, go to overseas players. 
 

Agree with you. Hate the new ncaa and rules. But did anyone think that this wouldn’t happen 5 years ago or so when it was put on the table. Removing of the one time free transfer rule (minus coach leaving) and making NIL income not available during the sit out year (because hey they aren’t playing) would curb some of this 

1 hour ago, mat1992 said:

We're never going to get solid D1 transfers who score 12+ points per game until we start raising more money for NIL and giving some out of our pocket. It's still incumbent on the athletic department to continue to push the difference between giving to the TAF and GOH Collective. Most people still don't know what they are giving to. Another zoom meeting with Richard Kent or somebody in the know is needed. That's not a Skerry thing. It's not a system or pace factor. It's an NIL factor and until we can have Hofstra, Stony Brook and UNCW money (we're never going to catch CofC), then we're going to have to do it the old-fashioned way and methodical way and that's recruit freshmen.

Those other schools aren’t rolling in it either. So that’s moot.  Besides the tier one university listed, what do the others have in Common?

Rich get richer. https://x.com/portal_updates/status/1779173530640302482?s=46&t=Ngq04lxeei-KO1HZI6wvxg

2 hours ago, Bay Area Tiger said:

Better mid major towns on the East Coast makes us sound like we’ve had 60 consecutive sellouts at the Towson Arena and we’ve won the CAA 9 out of the last 10 seasons.  Complete bullshit! 

Cranky on the left coast haha. 

1 hour ago, TSU88 said:

I know 

Don’t hate it. Don’t love it. But “it’s fluid”. Announcing this and then not following through would look bad.  Just strange.  Everyone better make HUGE jumps in the off-season. This was the season where it was wide open