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2 minutes ago, mat1992 said:I'm not stopping this thread, but apparently, we won't be bringing in a transfer at this time. I get bringing Jaiden Cole back, because there is upside there in terms of length and athletic ability. Hicks has had several concussions but hasn't graduated yet. It's tough to just nudge him off the team and reportedly, he's been cleared. But the Paar thing I don't get. Clumsy big with bad knees who graduated. I assume Watson is the odd man out because somebody has to go to clear the way for both freshmen to come in.
This also puts a ton of pressure on 6-9 Caleb Embeya. I think offensively, he has a chance to be better than Charles right away, but defense and staying away from fouling too much is almost always an issue for young big men. The good thing is that he's athletic enough to switch and smaller players and not hurt you.
I get it, but I also don't get it. My feelings on Pat as a coach put aside, it is nice to see the loyalty these student athletes have to him and the university. Refreshing in this day and age, and maybe we can stop hearing some folks on here bitch and complain about NIL. But there were at least 3 players who are marginal (being nice) contributors, that have been here for 3 years... Whether it be ability, or availability, they are what they are, and that's 9-12 on the bench... With or without Watson, and assuming you are correct, and he leaves, this team is still missing pieces. If this team was very good last year and lost on a fluke, running it back is great. This is questionable at best, while they did win like 19 games, there were some major holes that could have been filled in the portal.
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53 minutes ago, Blazer49 said:You can't win a low mid-major three or four-game tournament either.
But it won’t stop us from trying for the 14th straight year !
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Just think, Cam Spencer was UCONN's second choice, after being spurned by Timberlake (HAHA). Things have a way of working out (or you get lucky). Spencer was an X factor all season and was a big piece in this title run. Nick would not have been able to replicate anything similar what Spencer did at UCONN.
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2 hours ago, mat1992 said:Albany guard Amar’e Marshall. Guessing a huge long shot
https://x.com/theportalreport/status/1777463643841441976?s=46&t=nScacl1TWT-KyOwj5stBaw
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/stats/_/id/4897701/amare-marshall
Will be on his third school in three years. 🚩
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Hearing Skerry to BBN is being talked about...🤣
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As many bad results come from the team, gotta give them props when they win. Took 2 out of 3 against Hofstra last weekend and then won one against preseason favorite NE this weekend.
"OK, we won a game yesterday. If we win today, it's called "two in a row". And if we win again tomorrow, it's called a "winning streak"... It has happened before!"
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2 hours ago, mat1992 said:Ante is back for Chris Mack
https://x.com/goodmanhoops/status/1775535234639180014?s=46&t=nScacl1TWT-KyOwj5stBaw
Well damn. Second best returning player in the league.
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1 hour ago, Tiger93 said:I guess the disconnect is that I don't think we are alright with 1 of 3. I think we are just saying that being 38-16 in conference play in three years is a good thing and it is more fun to watch than 29-29 or worse. It is not good enough, but I also don't think it should be dismissed.
I also think as a whole there is a lot that needs to be better, and we should all expect more if we want to get there. I don't see why both things can't be true. However, we have this conversation every offseason and I doubt we will ever agree. Ultimately, we all want the same things for this program. However, we will have all of these "agree to disagree" semantics until the job gets done. I look forward to what the topic can be the day after that happens. I guess that is part of what keeps us coming back here. That, and I am guessing a passion for wanting this program to break through its 33-year (soon to be 34) old ceiling.
Not a personal attack. You are more towards the middle, but saying people aren’t happy with a winning season or 20 wins, is just false. Not saying it was you. I’m not digging that far back but two years ago there were a few posters that would rather 27-5 and a first round exit than 15-19, a CAAT championship and a trip to the tournament
I too hope that we get to the point where we talk about dancing rather than 18 and 19^ (no asterisks here only carrots!) wins
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43 minutes ago, Tiger93 said:I have two points where I would challenge your post.
From 1996-97 through 2011-12 we finished higher than 7th in the conference twice, went to one conference tournament semifinal and were ever were above .500. Since 2012-13, we have finished over .500 10 times, have been fifth or better 10 times, and advanced to five semifinals. I completely agree with you all that none of it is acceptable without an NCAA Tournament berth. However, at least I have optimism that we can be a good team and try to avoid choking as opposed to knowing we would be one of the worst teams in the conference and would have not shot to be in the mix come conference tournament time. This is not meant to be sticking up Skerry, because I would agree while I appreciate what he has done we overdue for a tournament appearance (heck, I think he would admit it too). However, I am just saying from a fan's standpoint it has been much easier to root for and travel to see games know we at least have a decent to good squad most years.This last point would have more ground to stand on if our conference could ever win a conference tournament game, but admittedly at this point it is hypothetical exercise because how pathetic it has been. Based on your points of winning it all being the only result that matters, I would say conference play and non-conference play matter even more. If the goal is to get to an NCAA Tournament, then it should also be to be seeded as good as possible to have the best possible chance to win and accomplish as much as possible. The year Drexel and Delaware made it they had flimsy resumes and got 16 and 15 seeds where they got crushed. Charleston has managed to get 13 and 14, and even a 12 seed. This theoretically gives them a better chance to do well and if our conference wasn't such a joke in NCAA Tournament play this would make a difference. To get a better seed, you have to play well in the regular-season (especially in a one-bid-league).
Again, I don't say this to stick up for any particular coach or administrator, or to "accept mediocrity". To me, it is just common sense that to get to where we want to be as fans, this program needs to play well in non-conference play, be good in CAA play, and win in the conference tournament. We are 1 for 3 for the most part recently. Not acceptable, but better than 0-3. Whether it is with or without this coach, we need to figure out the other two elements. How we all perceive the journey to get there is merely a matter of opinion.
Completely understand what you’re saying. But being ok with 1 for 3 and not making that next “jump”, is the problem. “Hey it could be worse”. Yes it could. But sure as hell could be better, ask every team in our league whose played for a chance to go to the tournament in the past 10 years
40 minutes ago, Tiger93 said:This does not exist. You merely make this up that there are those (on this board at least) who celebrate this.
Ummm. What?! You forgot to mention, April fools
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23 minutes ago, TSU88 said:And while I’m at it, to those who worship at the altar of a 20 W season, 6 out the 14 schools in the conference (I wasn’t a math major, but I believe that’s close to half) finished with 20 or more W’s; 1 school finished with 19, and another with 18.
So, while 20 W’s is nice, it’s not the gold standard some make it out to be. Does it beat winning 12-13 games? Of course. But in and of itself, it’s of little significance if not part of a regular season crown 👑 or conference tournament title
😂, shhhhh...
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21 minutes ago, TSU88 said:This debate, if there really is on, on the importance of OOC games and regular season conference games, is mildly amusing to me. OOC games are only important to the extent that they put $ in our coffers and perhaps get the team ready for conference play. Regular season conference games are important to the extent of determining tournament seeding. But, to mix metaphors, you play for show, you putt for dough. Meaning, that at the end of the day, in a 1-bid league, it really does boil down to 3-5 days in March, notwithstanding where you finish in the regular season
I'm in agreement with you on that. With a normal program, the OOC prepares you for the conference regular season, which should help your seeding for the conference tournament. which should help you have, theoretically, and easier path to the bid.
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18 hours ago, TSU88 said:This is amazing to me. Of the top 15 CAA players, based on those selected to the 1st, 2nd and 3rd teams, only 3, White, Dell’orso and Glasper are returning next season (assuming none of these 3 enter the portal).
A new coach (3), graduation (6), will do that. Add in the portal, it is a yearly thing.
Drumgoole of Delaware into the portal and looking to join his 6th team in 7 years (Joking, sort of)
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2 hours ago, Tgr4life said:You can call it whatever you like. The bottom line is those games are fun to watch if you love the sport, but in the end, your season is judged by the playoffs. Advancing to the Regionals is what defines your season.
I've learned on here that they OOC and the regular season conferenced games count, IF we win. If not, they are not important and it is just for March. It is fluid with these fans on here. Whatever fits.
Playoffs/Postseason is what counts and remembered. Though considering the graduations from last season, and loss of Watson, (add in the bad offense and sporadic play), this past season could be considered a success and was pretty fun. Now knowing that we blew a large late lead to finally make it to a final, makes you think, but hindsight is 20/20. With that said, 2022-2023 season was a complete failure as we did not win the league, tournament or even make a final with a returning team.
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1 hour ago, Tgr4life said:38-16 is equal to the Orioles dominating Spring Training....just something meaningless to talk about
Shhh 🤫
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24 minutes ago, Tiger93 said:Yeah, I think there a lot of arguments for what types of styles and pace of play work. However, two I do have a strong feeling about the following concepts.
First, no matter what you want to make it an entertaining style for your fans to enjoy. Second, you have to have some level of competent offense to be able to win tough postseason games/pull off upsets. I think of the shots Yale and Oakland were hitting when much more talented Auburn and Kentucky teams were charging hard and trying to come back to avoid upsets.
I also think of how relentless and confident Alabama was when is probably a better UNC team kept coming back at them. I know the talent level in that game is something that is hard to compare to our level, but I do think that while being mentally tough is important there also has to be players on the team that can make tough shots when there is pressure building. That is something that needs to be cultivated throughout the year. The way I see it is I want a team that not only is capable of getting to the NCAA Tournament, but one that has a style that makes it tough to game-plan for in one-game situations. I know that is asking a lot, but this is my long way of saying I pretty much agree. Although, I also acknowledge this is all easier said then done. Doesn't mean it isn't worth trying.
Obviously the talent level is drastic, but it doesn't even look like the same sport. Very entertaining.
Fun fact, Alabama AVERAGES 6 more points a game, than our highest output on the year!
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1 hour ago, Blazer49 said:STOP! I am begging you PLEASE STOP! I used to work for a certain east coast MLB team that during a long stretch of not being successful used a talking point one off season of "We had the 4th best record in the National League last season!" They still missed the playoffs because this was the mid-2000's and only the division winners and one wild card team made the playoffs. The link to this post screams the same thing. "Hey look what we have done." The answer is NOTHING because you have not made the "playoffs." Not to mention it is strange who in the DMV they did and did not include.
😂Exactly. That graphic just really shows how bad basketball is around here.
But what do you expect, when people are still talking about what if's from a decade+ ago, and blaming Pat Kennedy still. Watch, next it'll be "third best record in CAA play last three season (In small print, not including CAAT, when you know it counts), or back to back to back to back 18 wins season (If you don't include covid and any other seasons that arbitrarily don't count!)
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11 hours ago, mat1992 said:I think Towson should do another Zoom meeting about NIL for football and basketball to explain about giving to NIL. What it means and what's the difference between giving to TAF (Tiger Athletic Fund) and the TU Collective for NIL. From my understanding, these sponsors are mainly about giving these kids their products. There is not a ton of $$$ involved, but I don't know the exact details. In other words, we have to, for the current coach and future coach, to buck up and make payments towards NIL. I'm not saying pay something that you can't afford. I give a monthly/yearly fee in NIL for both sports because I want to do and I feel if I'm going to talk the talk, I better walk the walk. My understanding is that not everyone is on board with paying student-athletes. That's not even an assumption. It's the truth and I get it, but it's an arms race. If the few wealthy donors we have and the rest who can afford a modest amount, are not willing to give a nice sum for NIL, we're going to miss out on key transfers and will end up with the "meh" players we've added over the last two seasons (Jones, Tarke, Sulaiman, Sylla, Russell). I think what we have available is good enough to retain most of our young returners.
https://towsontigers.com/feature/TowsonNIL?path=nil
https://gohcollective.doubleknot.com/registration/donate.aspx?activitykey=2973795
Agree.
I’m not advocating for fully playing the way Alabama and Charleston play but watching that game and last nights Bama Unc game, the offense is quick and free flowing. Such a breathe of fresh air from what we do. Of course it’s about the Jimmys and joes too, but should be able to play without running 22 seconds of clock before getting into our offense for an iffy look at best
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I don’t feel like looking around for the GOH Collective page. And since this one’s getting the most traction, I’ll ask here … is there a list of businesses that contribute to it/sponsor players? Can the publish that information? Would assume so. But I want to support those businesses who support our student athletes. I know of hunt valley bagels, pure raw juice. I think THB?
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5 minutes ago, Tiger93 said:I agree, but just like Gonzaga is the exception not the rule I would also say it is more common that middling or crappy programs (I would put us in a solid middling category) try to find that superstar coach who will eventually move on to greener pastures and make the program better, and strike out on one or many occasions. This doesn't mean teams shouldn't try to do it, but I do think there is a misconception that you can just get rid of the current coach (not specific to Towson, just a general comment) and magically hire a superstar coach just like that. It is more likely you will hire a dud or just continue mediocrity. Who is making the hire and what the program is doing to make sure whoever they hire can be set up for success is just as big as who you hire. I am not saying anything we don't all know, but I do think this process can be made to seem easier than it is sometimes.
I don't think anyone on here said it was a sure thing, easier or that it will always work out. It won't but that doesn't mean you can be afraid to make a change and go out of your comfort zone (SOT mentality). We know what we have and it's fine, average, some good seasons. If you aren't willing to risk it all, the reward is much smaller. UNCW is successful, but has many bad hires in between the good (Benny and Buzz after Brownell, and C.B. after Keatts). But they are willing to cut their mistakes and move on, quickly.
There is no reason a coach at Towson University should stay for 10+ years. But yet, until last year we had three with Ambrose, Skerry and Nadaline. They should either win and move or on lose and be fired. Middling "success" leading to no other opportunities equates to stagnate status quo. The fact that they were not on short term contracts, is mind boggling. Hopefully athletics knows, you can place buy outs in contracts..
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1 hour ago, Blazer49 said:Damn it TuTigers2012 you beat me to it!
Hard pass, but if he did come to Towson he would not have to worry about any court storming at
SECUuh I mean Towson Center 2.0 or on the road.Sorry. 😂😂😂
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13 hours ago, mat1992 said:6-11 Harvard center Matt Filipowski
https://x.com/travisgrafhoops/status/1773099871194493436?s=46&t=nScacl1TWT-KyOwj5stBawDoes he flop and act like a victim like his twin?
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1 hour ago, Bay Area Tiger said:Tejada is staying put per Jake 👏
In all seriousness If true that’s good. Can’t teach scoring or height but can get him in system defensively where he’s serviceable
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56 minutes ago, TSU88 said:At the risk of getting excoriated by 1 or 2 people on the board, this is the natural evolution of things. Kelsey stayed a few years at C of C, got them to the tournament 2X, used C of C as a lily pad to a bigger job. And C of C will simply go out and try to get the next Kelsey. Rinse, wash, repeat.
This 10000%. Vcu. Uncw. Charleston have this done. Coaches shouldn’t stay a mid major longer than 1.5 full recruiting classes
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2024-25 Transfer Thread
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Thanks for taking my place.🤣 You're going to get crushed here, lol. I can see it now, that one guy 2024 "Diz da Probz with U fake bluffin fanz! Entire cRew Returns for 1 last RiDe (or Die) and U guyz are upset! Wat do you want?? To win more den 18 games!?"
Since we are using names, yes, Coleman, Paar and Hicks are questionable returnees. Watson thing is concerning, though coming off ACL surgery, the athleticism won't be the same, but still likely better than anything we have. Obviously with the bigger names not even entering portal (with potential to come back), is something. Glass half full for some, Glass half empty for others. Me? It's just more of the same, enjoy the 18-13 record and epic choke in the CAAT.