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8 minutes ago, TuTigers2012 said:

Thank god they didn’t have their best player last night or we would have lost.  Danes take down mighty d3 who won 8 games last year ..

Give it a break! *SD

34 minutes ago, TSU88 said:

Crazy thing is we left a bunch of points on the field (3 missed FG’s and a fumble deep in their territory). Realistically, this could have been something like 40-3. 

I don’t remember a better defensive performance. Where has this D been all season?

Can’t say enough about Hunter. I believe he has 3 returns for TD’s, along with several others in the neighborhood of 60 yards. If there’s a better return man in college football I’d like to see him.

Pigrome is a “meh” passer, but that one TD to Perkins was picture perfect. He just dropped it right in the bucket. As usual, he was effective running the ball. Speaking of running, after seeing Bangda today it’s abundantly clear he should have gotten more touches earlier this season. He was more often than not the hammer today, not the nail. When a guy turns what should have been no gain into a four-yard pickup, you know he’s a good RB. I hope he’s back next year & is the featured back.

Perkins is also a guy who could shine next season, if we have a QB who can consistently get him the ball.

Well, we might just finish 6-5. I still am adamant that Ambrose needs to go, but kudos to him, his staff, and the players for today’s performance 
 

Bangda was supposed to be the guy this year.  Injuries and paperwork stunted his progress.

7 hours ago, Billy1121 said:

Has Scott Chadwick been mentioned?

Not nearly enough experience at the collegiate level.  

Yeah, I don’t know who told you thatbut it’s not accurate.  In 2008 we were probably at the bottom of the conferenebut not today.  We have paid coordinators over $100k and position coaches have earned $50k(some at $75+) since the 2010 season. 

43 minutes ago, Chris Datres said:

For whoever it is we decide to go after, let's hope that the proper amount of funds are appropriated for it.  Our pool for assistant coaches isn't all that great and a lead guy may be pretty hesitant to come here if he can't pay his assistants the right amount, whatever that is.  Madam President is going to have to start caring about athletics enough to open up the purse strings if she doesn't want to be angry like the rest of us in future football seasons.

What’s the dollar amount of the pool ?

2 hours ago, TuTigers2012 said:

Hope there’s a few young hungry coordinators out there.  Some here will want an alum coaching the team. The overall history of Towson football has been average at best, so my question to that would be why?!  Need someone outside and with energy. 

Oh bother… you really have no clue about the history of Towson football.  Keep spinning your web on the board, Spidey. Those who don’t know the historybelieve you.  

1 hour ago, TuTigers2012 said:

Hopefully they improve the food offerings and speed of service at the concession stands. Anyone been to football games and notice a delay with the offering of alcohol now?

Has anyone been to a McDonald’s, Wendy’s or Chipotle lately?   This is what our society is  being conditioned for… expect less

The HBCU’s have regular season matchups that are  funded by corporations and played a NFL stadiums.  Note: the tickets purchased by the sponsors donot equal fans in the seats.

11 minutes ago, Tgr4life said:

Whining from a coach who has won nothing in over a decade is incredible. Talk about ROI.....not Towson Hoops1

And the hoops budget is at the top of the CAA….

1 hour ago, tu_fan said:

Good for Skerry.  He's right.  We should invest heavily in hoops between TV rights, attendance, the $ associated with making the tournament, etc., this is the sport that needs to be prioritized within the university.  While it is probably not popular wihtin this board, I'd be fine with investing less in football & dropping baseball if it meant creating a sustainable hoops program.  I recall PK stating how underfunded the program was, making it nearly impossible for any coach to succeed.  I assume we invest more these days, but am not sure.  I think Skerry should have a ton of leverage- we were literally the worst D1 basketball program in the country for years (how many losing seasons in a row did we have?  shitty APR rates, scant attendance) and we ended the year close to top 50/60 in Net rankings.  

Why is  every other College and University (at every level) investing heavily in Football?  

31 minutes ago, TigersTigers said:

Currently, Don's base compensation is $85,000 a year. With performance bonuses and camps (A huge moneymaker for all college vb coaches), he probably ends up making between $100-120k. Meanwhile, basically every Power-5 coach is paid 6 figures for their base compensation. For P5 teams that are not traditionally strong, coaches are usually making between $120-$200k. For good teams, you can generally expect about $250-400k. The highest earner in the sport is John Cook of Nebraska, who is paid $675,000 per year. With camps and other income, he is a millionaire. 

There's no question that he'll be gone soon. The highest Towson would probably ever be willing to go for him would be about $100k, and he can make more than that in his first season even at a bad P5 school.

I thought that his new contract raised his base to the “J” grade.  That would mean that hes over $100k base . He could have left for multiple jobs  over the past 5 years.  I hope that he stays.

Some tailgating.  I wouldn’t expect more than 9k today.

So,  very interesting list of candidates ATiger.  However,  I’d like to have a list of candidates with D1 recruiting/coaching  experience from the DMV.  I would think that guys like Bowie would be in over their heads.  Lutz is interesting…. why him? Why not the HC from Mount Union? Experience with the transfer portal and NIL would seem to be more impactful.  
As far as $ … Shawn Lutz makes $131k!  Bowie makes less than $80k.  I think our FB budget, facilities and pay are well above any HC job that these two have ever applied for!

54 minutes ago, AtlantaTiger said:

I'm sure we could collectively come up with a pretty extensive list of coaching names that we'd like to see at Towson, in the event the Ambrose era comes to an end......eventually.

Some of those names will be wishful thinking as I don't know that our recent history or our budget will allow for a well-established/accomplished veteran coach to come in and save the day.

I found two names that could be interesting.  One, a very young guy with ties to some successful programs and the other, a proven veteran coach at the DII level.

 

The first is Rick Bowie, OC at DII powerhouse Valdosta State.  Young guy with experience on Dana Holgerson's staffs at WVU & Houston and maybe more importantly, connections with Baltimore prep school football (St. Frances & Gilman).  Obviously, he's still very young and maybe not quite enough experience but sometimes you need to roll the dice and take a chance.  

Rick Bowie - Offensive Coordinator / Quarterbacks - Football Coaches - Valdosta State University Athletics (vstateblazers.com)

 

My second candidate and perhaps a longshot is Slippery Rock HC Shawn Lutz.  Dude has a .774 winning percentage as a HC in seven years.  He knows the MD/DC, PA, NJ recruiting area very well.  I would like to think Towson could find the $$ to make it enticing for him to leave Slippery Rock.

Shawn Lutz - Football Coach - Slippery Rock University Athletics (rockathletics.com)

 

I'm sure I'll come across some other names in the weeks ahead that could be worth considering.

 

Go Tigers!

On 9/24/2022 at 8:28 PM, TuTigers2012 said:

Furthest thing from an Ambrose supporter. But fbs games should be taken with a grain of salt.  The fcs games we have played were just as, If not lot discouraging.  Zero adjustments, vanilla offense. Zero athleticism (compared to bucknell, Morgan and UNH 😳😳) adjustments and passion is embarrassing.  We’ve come a long way from “the unveiling”… haha

 

 

hoops season is soon upon us 88. That and rob being gone in, almost 7 games, should give us all hope! 

Oh, I’m still here.  *SD

12 minutes ago, Tgr4life said:

Your question is totally irrelevant. What would Indiana State's legacy be if they did not have Larry Bird transfer from Bobby Knight's squad? You play the players you have and they determine your legacy. The what if is a silly question. Some coaches get good breaks with players that appear at their door. It happens. Sometimes you have kids you think are studs and they fail miserably. It happens. You have every right to discuss the product on the field and the coach that leads them, but the What If Player A was not here is ridiculous. 

3 playoff appearances, National runner up and 2CAA championships…..If you watched any of those games during the West era… you would have seen a physical team that was built to run the football.

25 minutes ago, Blounge said:

I swear he is reading my ideas on here and making them happen! Doc going uptown to the bars Friday

Very cool idea.  ECU does this

AVCA and NCAA polls for week of 9/19….

Towson drops 21 votes to stay at #27 

PItt moves up two spots to #10

total BS

2 hours ago, TigerFan54 said:

Agreed -- this team's continued success deserves great fan support. 

Yes. Great job by the staff and the players.

Section 101

49 minutes ago, TuTigers2012 said:

Teams that have left fcs last decade:

JMU, Sam Houston state, Jacksonville state, Liberty, Coastal Carolina, Ga state, app state. All of those were good to great programs who played for or won championships. Fact

 Caa in thr playoffs last 5-7 years outside of one Maine run, has been all JMU. Haven’t had multiple teams make the semi finals in a long time. That used to be the norm now doesn’t happen. Fact 

0 playoff wins in 8 years. Fact 

attendance since frisco:

2014: 7,287

2015: 6,594  Jmu and Delaware home games 

2016: 5,702

2017: 5,376  Delaware home game

2018: 6,904  Jmu home game  (excluded that shit storm of a playoff game which helps the #s)

2019: 6,352 

2020: no season

2021: 5,561 NDSU home game (under 4500 without)  

Without inflated attendance numbers ~5,500  that’s less than half the capacity.  And a downward trend. Fact 

Based off of 5,500 In attendance. Assuming they all paid (they didn’t) $40 (again they didn’t) that’s 220k. Not close enough to pay coaching salaries yet alone scholarships, equipment travel etc. (yes there are other factors that go into it where funding comes from). But football is in the red. Fact

 

So please tell me which of those isn’t a fact. I will look forward to your response instead of the name calling. 

It’s been a long time. Longer than us. 
I didn’t mention them making the championship, Melissa, I was comparing playoff appearances which are rare in tiger town. Over the past 5 years or so they have had more success and playoff success than us.
Ps those are lower level public school programs that are beginning to lap us. 

those programs would have been successful too with the west victor combination. What they did that 3 year stretch was amazing. Everything clicked and they were good. It’s more amazing looking back at that, especially to where they are at now. 

Lol. GaState was “good to great”?  Did they win a game in the CAA? Lmao

how many playoff appearances does URI have in the last 5 years?  

we’ve let you run your mouth for a long time. Lmao 🤣 😆😂🤪

BTW,  when is the last time URI made the playoffs?  When is the last time SB, URI, Maine and Albany played for a National Championship? So how are these programs better? 

Fraud… 😂 🤣😆lol lmao…

*SD I’m still here

3 hours ago, TuTigers2012 said:

Truth hurts and if that’s my “agenda” than so be it. FCS football has been bad for years. That’s a fact.  Most of the programs that cared moved on.  
We don’t draw. That’s a fact. Football is an expensive endeavor and most lose money. Just because others are doing it, doesn’t necessary make it right. Questioning the long term validity is a legitimate inquiry. Especially when there are some that want to expand the stadium and move up. That is absurd.  

I thought we would grow as a program years ago when Rob was hired. The energy and buzz was there. The end of his second year you could start seeing the progression in those last few games. A great player landed at Towson and our climb culminated making the championship game. Since then it’s been all downhill quickly. That is unacceptable. 
 

Next will come the excuses and reasoning why we are at a disadvantage “money, facilities, etc”.  Sure. Let’s go all in and fund this program to the max or not. Middling around isn’t the answer. Maine, URI, Albany, stony Brook shouldn’t have more success than us but they do. 3 of the 4 have won playoff games more recently than Towson has.  What’s the issue??

See my post above

Nothing is half truths, sorry.
 

when have I mentioned that we are the only team losing money?  Never   Almost all do.  Again questioning the sustainability of this is a legit question.

Rob was the coach when we went to the championship, 9 years ago. 9!  While he deserves credit for that (and has with reckless contract extensions) it doesn’t hurt to have a future nfl running back that you could hand the ball to.  Making the championship shouldn’t give you a lifetime contract right?

 0 playoff wins since  what half truth is in that statement?

I want Towson athletics to be the best they can be.  With Football or without. Yes I would much rather us to be a basketball school because in the long run, making it to the dance gives much more exposure than the fcs playoffs.  Can we be good at both while also funding a lacrosse program?  That will continue to be difficult.

 

Because you tell us it’s a fact, doesn’t make it a fact. 🤣 , lol, lmao etc.

*SD, I’m still here.

11 hours ago, TuTigers2012 said:

Eh. Came to Towson because they had football unlike some other schools I was looking at. A program keeping a coach who is under 500 for well over a decade is laughable, really, we are the laughingstock of the CAA.  

You love Rob and in your eyes he can do no wrong. I see your agenda. 

Yup. There is validity to the long term feasibility of fielding an fcs team. 

fcs football is awful and regressing each year. All levels of football are. Quality of play is going down.
Fcs football for a team that draws 3500-4000 isn’t feasible. it’s expensive. Students don’t care or want it. Most Alums feel the same.  It sucks but no one in the caa draws well for students. It’s alum and the locals, which we don’t have any support from.  This is for hoops too so it’s not a football thing it’s a Towson thing.

you all should see message boards of successful programs and schools. It’s not all sunshine and rainbows. There needs to be more accountability at Towson all around. If there was we wouldn’t have been stuck with a bad coach for so long 

Sigh, Good one. “Childish”. Obviously are a player or someone on the staff. Wouldn’t be surprised if you were even MA.

First of all, I am not part of the Towson football program and not an “MA”.

However,  I do see how you operate.  You pick out specific instances to support your argument and drive it down everyone’s throat.  I see that s*#t on TV every night.  
Yes, FCS football is very different than it was 10-15 years ago. Quite frankly, I don’t like it. However, you make statements that are half truths… to support your arguments.  The reality is that all FCs programs lose money.  JMU was, us and will continue to lose money.  Delaware just built a $60 million dollar academic/sport performance facility and they lose money with a $40 MM athletic budget.  Bowling Green loses money. Buffalo loses money. ODU Is in desperation mode.  Temple is losing money, Rutgers is outspending their B10 payout,  etc. Unless you are P5, you a most likely losing money.  You don’t include those facts in your posts because that doesn’t support your argument.

Fraud. Because your agenda has been to post half truths to create a negative vibe on this board with regard to our football program. I’m not happy with our recent performances. I’m  sure RA is not happy either, but you have to remember that>>>> We’ve played for a National Championship…. Rob took us there…….

You want a George Mason, VCU etc athletic dept.  I don’t ! I want a football program.  I want Saturday tailgating and a chance to bring the Towson community together.  You ain’t getting that with Basketball ( I support TU basketball and enjoy  college basketball).

Towson Football has had a long and successful history.  There have been many young men that have changed their lives because of the opportunity to play football a Towson.  I will continue to support those young men now and in the future.  You don’t!
 

2 hours ago, TuTigers2012 said:

Never named names of players in these “attacks.”   They are on scholarship and here to win football games. Saying that they aren’t good isn’t attacking, it’s stating a fact.  If you want them to get an education there are other ways than playing football. There are plenty of other average players rob can recruit to replace them. 

my agenda is, an alum and fan who is unhappy with the way this program has preformed since 2013. A team making the championship, in a conference that has gotten weaker over the years, shouldn’t be struggling to win games especially against the likes of bucknell, Morgan, st Francis, central Connecticut etc. The coach has been there long enough and should have been fired a few seasons ago. The same problems continue to plague this program.

I want to laugh at this but don’t want to be criticized for being childish…. Sorry that you are offended.  
Serious question, are you happy with the direction of this program?  Are you a player current or former or family member? 

Why do you care who I am?  Who are you? I may not know you, but I know what you are.  Fraud. Oh, I almost forgot 😩