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General Basketball Thread for 2024-25

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Congrats to Stetson, Grambling, and Duquesne for punching their tickets to the Dance.  For the Hatters and Tigers, it's their first time.  For the Dukes, first time since 1977.  That now leaves 59 D1 teams who either have never been to the Tournament or have a longer drought than we do.

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1 minute ago, Chris Datres said:

Congrats to Stetson, Grambling, and Duquesne for punching their tickets to the Dance.  For the Hatters and Tigers, it's their first time.  For the Dukes, first time since 1977.  That now leaves 59 D1 teams who either have never been to the Tournament or have a longer drought than we do.

The last time Duquesne went, Norm Nixon was playing for them and Richard Nixon had only been out of the White House for about 2-3 years. 

Be interesting to know how many of those 59 have been to the Tournament, but have a longer drought than us. As to the schools that have never been, I’m going to assume a number of them joined D1 subsequently to the last time we were in the tournament 
 

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6 minutes ago, TSU88 said:

The last time Duquesne went, Norm Nixon was playing for them and Richard Nixon had only been out of the White House for about 2-3 years. 

Be interesting to know how many of those 59 have been to the Tournament, but have a longer drought than us. As to the schools that have never been, I’m going to assume a number of them joined D1 subsequently to the last time we were in the tournament 
 

Hold that thought.  I'll fire off that list in a bit.

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3 minutes ago, Chris Datres said:

Hold that thought.  I'll fire off that list in a bit.

You obviously picked up on my less than subtle hint for someone, other than me, to do that research 😆

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9 minutes ago, TSU88 said:

The last time Duquesne went, Norm Nixon was playing for them and Richard Nixon had only been out of the White House for about 2-3 years. 

Be interesting to know how many of those 59 have been to the Tournament, but have a longer drought than us. As to the schools that have never been, I’m going to assume a number of them joined D1 subsequently to the last time we were in the tournament 
 

Here's the list.  The ones in bold have also not been to a conference championship game since the last time we were in one.  The ones with asterisks are those who are D1 veterans and never been or have droughts longer than us:

Army**                                   Bethune Cookman**           Bowling Green**                  Brown**                                               

Cal Baptist                         Central Arkansas             Chicago State**                    Citadel**

Columbia**                           Dartmouth**                        Denver                               

Elon                                     Fort Wayne                        High Point          

Houston Christian            Idaho**                                   Idaho State**                        Incarnate Word

Jacksonville**                        Kansas City**                        LA Tech**                               LeMoyne           

Lindenwood                      Loyola Marymount**          Maine**                                  Marist**  

Merrimack                         NJ Tech                               New Hampshire**               North Alabama               

Omaha                                Presbyterian                     Queens                               Quinnipiac                         

Rice**                                     Sac State                            Sacred Heart                     Seattle**

SIU-Ed                                South Dakota                    Southern Indiana            St. Thomas

Stonehill                             Tarleton State                  Tennessee Tech**

Texas A&M Commerce  Toledo**                                UMASS-Lowell                  UC Riverside                     

VMI**                                      USC Upstate                      UMES**                                  UC San Diego                   

UT Martin                           UTRGV                                Utah Valley                       Western Illinois**

William & Mary**                Youngstown State**

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17 minutes ago, Chris Datres said:

Here's the list.  The ones in bold have also not been to a conference championship game since the last time we were in one.  The ones with asterisks are those who are D1 veterans and never been or have droughts longer than us:

Army**                                   Bethune Cookman**           Bowling Green**                  Brown**                                               

Cal Baptist                         Central Arkansas             Chicago State**                    Citadel**

Columbia**                           Dartmouth**                        Denver                               

Elon                                     Fort Wayne                        High Point          

Houston Christian            Idaho**                                   Idaho State**                        Incarnate Word

Jacksonville**                        Kansas City**                        LA Tech**                               LeMoyne           

Lindenwood                      Loyola Marymount**          Maine**                                  Marist**  

Merrimack                         NJ Tech                               New Hampshire**               North Alabama               

Omaha                                Presbyterian                     Queens                               Quinnipiac                         

Rice**                                     Sac State                            Sacred Heart                     Seattle**

SIU-Ed                                South Dakota                    Southern Indiana            St. Thomas

Stonehill                             Tarleton State                  Tennessee Tech**

Texas A&M Commerce  Toledo**                                UMASS-Lowell                  UC Riverside                     

VMI**                                      USC Upstate                      UMES**                                  UC San Diego                   

UT Martin                           UTRGV                                Utah Valley                       Western Illinois**

William & Mary**                Youngstown State**

1st off, thanks for taking the time to do this research.

Now, if I understand it correctly, there are only 8 D1 programs (Army, Citadel, Columbia, Dartmouth, UMKC, UMES, NH, Rice) who  were D1 the last time we went to the tournament, and either have never been to the tournament or have a longer tournament drought than us, coupled with not having been to their respective conference championship game since the last time we were in one?

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That would be correct.  Columbia & Dartmouth have only had 8 years of Ivy League Tournaments in order to get to the championship round.  All the others have had plenty of time.

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42 minutes ago, Chris Datres said:

That would be correct.  Columbia & Dartmouth have only had 8 years of Ivy League Tournaments in order to get to the championship round.  All the others have had plenty of time.

Well, Army is a service academy; Citadel is a quasi service academy and Rice probably is hamstrung by high academic standards. So you could say that from 1991 (when we last made the tournament) to now, a span of 33 years, we, along with UMES, UMKC and UNH, are the most inept programs in D1, of those who have been in D1 since 1991 or longer. (Inept in terms of getting to their conference championship game)

It also bears noting that at least 20 (give or take) of the programs you listed, who have never been to the tournament, were not even in D1 in 1991. 

Additionally, your list doesn’t account for the converse-schools that have been to the tournament more recently than us, who weren’t D1 members in 1991

 

 

 

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