General MBB 2023-24 thread

[TuTigers2012 1,071]

24 minutes ago, Blazer49 said:

What are the chances that those students had no idea who were giving them coffee and bagels? Unfortunately, I would not be surprised if most didn't. "I was at the library this morning and it was cool a man and a woman were walking around handing out free coffee and bagels."

I would say 9 of 10 had no idea haha

 

13 minutes ago, Blounge said:

Do you think we should stay in the CAA? Where else would you want to go in the conference re-alignment scenario?

We don’t have a place to go. Playing that fall sport doesn’t help either.  I don’t want us in a league with Hampton, Bryant, NC A&T etc. But since we have no identity as a school and program, we are stuck with the other misfits. 
Too many different needs, basketball, football, lacrosse, hockey, baseball in this league. Couple that with state schools, private schools, religious schools, ones in major cities, small rural towns and suburbs, it’s one big hodge podge. The one thing all schools can agree on is their fans all hate the commissioner and flo (which the ADs voted to renew). 

[Chris Datres 424]

Can't imagine this is going to help Tarke's status for Saturday.  This organization just can't let it go and admit their outdated stupidity.

https://x.com/NicoleAuerbach/status/1735387117583229078?s=20

(Those deemed eligible by the TRO who play within the period could still lose a year of eligibility)

Edited December 14, 2023 by Chris Datres

[Bay Area Tiger 347]

United Athletic Conference!!!

Perfect fit!!!   
 

Get to play teams in Utah, Texas, Kentucky & Arkansas….  They in turn get to come to Maryland.  
 

[mat1992 2,237]

Tarke’s status 

https://x.com/stepnerwmar/status/1735433445575135328?s=46&t=nScacl1TWT-KyOwj5stBaw

[mat1992 2,237]

 

[Bay Area Tiger 347]

46 minutes ago, mat1992 said:

 

  Can’t wait for Tarke to join the team!  

[Blounge 521]

Hope Cam Holden is doing well wherever he’s playing now. Wildcard guy, but he played great for us at times

[Tiger93 299]

I did a quick thought exercise yesterday because the conference actually seems pretty solid and has had some good wins this year. That conference NET ranking of 21 seemed low until you factor in all of the crap at the bottom. I know has a cherry-picking for a good narrative aspect to it since the bottom part of it is complete garbage, especially Hampton and NC A&T (I probably just assured we will lose to one of these teams with that comment).

I took the average NET ranking of the top eight teams for each conference (full disclosure, we are eighth in the CAA) and ranked the conferences. When I did this exercise, the CAA was actually 13th out of all the conferences mostly due to the fact that 5-8 is pretty strong compared to most other conferences from a NET perspective.

The CAA was the biggest jump from the overall from 21 to 13. If anyone is interested here is how the rankings shaped up (as of Dec. 14), the average NET ranking of the top eight teams in parenthesis, and what the real rankings are when you include all of the teams. I only ran this through twice, so I may have missed a conference on this list. 

1. Big 12 (15.7) - ranked 1 in overall conference rankings
2. SEC (26.8) - 3
3. ACC (37.6) - 5
4. Big East (39.8) - 4
5. Big Ten (44.8) - 2
6. Pac 12 (50.2) - 6
7. Mountain West (66.5) - 7
8. Atlantic 10 (74.3) - 8
9. AAC (87.6) - 10
10. Missouri Valley (92.3) - 9
11. WAC (138.6) - 13
12. WCC (140.6) - 12
13. CAA (142.5) - 21 
14. Ivy League (153.1) - 11
15. MAC (160.8) - 19
16. Sun Belt (165.3) - 22
17. Horizon (168.2) - 23
18. Big West (171.6) - 16
19. So Con (172) - 14
20. Conference USA (185.2) - 15
21. America East (192.5) 17
22. Big South (196.2) - 20
23. Summit League (197.1) - 18
24. Big Sky (201) - 24
25. MAAC (217.6) - 25
26. A-Sun (229.8) - 26
27. Southland (246.6) - 27
28. OVC (247.8) - 28
29. SWAC (264.6) - 31
30. Patriot (274.7) - 29
31. MEAC (291.1) - 30
32. NEC (300.1) - 32
 

[TuTigers2012 1,071]

11 minutes ago, Tiger93 said:

I did a quick thought exercise yesterday because the conference actually seems pretty solid and has had some good wins this year. That conference NET ranking of 21 seemed low until you factor in all of the crap at the bottom. I know has a cherry-picking for a good narrative aspect to it since the bottom part of it is complete garbage, especially Hampton and NC A&T (I probably just assured we will lose to one of these teams with that comment).

I took the average NET ranking of the top eight teams for each conference (full disclosure, we are eighth in the CAA) and ranked the conferences. When I did this exercise, the CAA was actually 13th out of all the conferences mostly due to the fact that 5-8 is pretty strong compared to most other conferences from a NET perspective.

The CAA was the biggest jump from the overall from 21 to 13. If anyone is interested here is how the rankings shaped up (as of Dec. 14), the average NET ranking of the top eight teams in parenthesis, and what the real rankings are when you include all of the teams. I only ran this through twice, so I may have missed a conference on this list. 

1. Big 12 (15.7) - ranked 1 in overall conference rankings
2. SEC (26.8) - 3
3. ACC (37.6) - 5
4. Big East (39.8) - 4
5. Big Ten (44.8) - 2
6. Pac 12 (50.2) - 6
7. Mountain West (66.5) - 7
8. Atlantic 10 (74.3) - 8
9. AAC (87.6) - 10
10. Missouri Valley (92.3) - 9
11. WAC (138.6) - 13
12. WCC (140.6) - 12
13. CAA (142.5) - 21 
14. Ivy League (153.1) - 11
15. MAC (160.8) - 19
16. Sun Belt (165.3) - 22
17. Horizon (168.2) - 23
18. Big West (171.6) - 16
19. So Con (172) - 14
20. Conference USA (185.2) - 15
21. America East (192.5) 17
22. Big South (196.2) - 20
23. Summit League (197.1) - 18
24. Big Sky (201) - 24
25. MAAC (217.6) - 25
26. A-Sun (229.8) - 26
27. Southland (246.6) - 27
28. OVC (247.8) - 28
29. SWAC (264.6) - 31
30. Patriot (274.7) - 29
31. MEAC (291.1) - 30
32. NEC (300.1) - 32
 

It’s like adding a bunch of new teams that aren’t good and underfunded was going to bring the league down.  
you can cherry pick what you want, they are still in the league. 54-70 overall record is meh

[Tiger93 299]

46 minutes ago, TuTigers2012 said:

It’s like adding a bunch of new teams that aren’t good and underfunded was going to bring the league down.  
you can cherry pick what you want, they are still in the league. 54-70 overall record is meh

I mean there is no getting around that the conference is the conference with all of the teams and ugly warts, but I do feel like measuring the top eight teams in each conference can tell you something about the quality depth a conference can have. I do think Monmouth and Stony Brook will prove to be good hoops additionsl (of course we lose Delaware).

Honestly, it is more about the lack of depth most mid-majors have than the amazing depth that the CAA has. However, Delaware, Hofstra, UNC-Wilmington, Charleston, Drexel, Monmouth, Northeastern, Towson are a decently solid top eight. I only walked through this exercise to take a look at where things sit as we get ready for conference play. 

None of this really matters, because our ranking is so low all we have left is phase 2 (conference play) and phase 3 (conference tournament) to focus on as we move forward. It is still just something I find interesting to break down. Just thought I would share.