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I’m hard pressed to imagine there are any “Pat lovers” on here. As has been said over & over, by all accounts he’s a great family man (much credit for his Autism efforts) who rescued the program from the depths a decade ago. The expiration date on the goodwill that rescue engendered has long since passed though. As I’ve said before, as far as I’m concerned, the program has regressed so much under him, that I don’t think we’re that much better off tonight than we were the day he took over. And yes, I know he graduates kids and that they do community service. Call me hard to please, but I want more than that. I want to actually, you know, see the program get back to the Dance in my lifetime

Why does Skerry get a pass for this year? Was Towson the only school that had to deal with Covid. Loyola...a # 9 seed (and they had covid as well) beat # 1 seed Navy in the patriot League tournament. Regardless of obstacles, you have to get the job done, especially with that salary! He deserves NO PASSES. He used all of the ones folks should be inclined to give.

Not talking about coaches. Nobody wants to talk about next season and it's difficult to review this season, so I'm going to attempt to look at each player and their situation. The top win of the year came against Northeastern on Feb. 14 and it was our last regular season game. At 4-14 with three pauses it was the most bizarre season we could have ever imagined and a bad one on the court as well as off the court. Towson averaged 68.6 points per game on 41.3% shooting (29.6% 3pt). The worst part of the season wasn't really the offense. It was the defense, which allowed 75.3 points, 44.8% shooting and 38.9% from beyond the arc. That last mark ranked 340th in the nation. Last season, when they went 19-12, they allowed 32.3% from three-point range, which ranked 132nd. 0 Curtis Holland. He took Zane's number and it fit. He played zero minutes. Here's a kid who is 6-2, 220 and averaged 14ppg at High Point in nine games before getting injured. Hasn't played since then. Will he be back? I think if he can't play after nearly a year-and-a-half, not sure he ever will. If you bring him back, you risk the fact that he could be the top scorer on the team or may miss most of the season. Future: ? 1 Demetrius Mims. Sophomore. Could get 3 more years, but not sure that will happen. Has to build up his body. At 6-6, 185, he's long and very athletic but his shot needs a lot of work. Averaged 5.9ppg, 3.2rpg. Shot 43.5% from the field and 30.8% from 3pt. Was 4 of 13 from 3pt. Avg 18.9mpg. Has a future but he needs a lot of skill work and could add at least 10 pounds so he can play some power forward. Future: Local kid who has potential if he works hard in the offseason. 2 Zane Martin. If Holland's injury situation was a little more clear in the offseason, Martin probably wouldn't be here. Led the team with 16.5ppg but shot just 39.2% from the field and 22.1% from beyond the arc. He did pass it well (3.5apg), but did not defend well. He shot over 38% from 3 three seasons ago as a sophomore. Should never have left. Didn't play the last two games. Gone. 3 Cam Allen. The Cal-State Bakersfield transfer may have been a little bit of a victim of the pandemic and lack of practice. He never seemed to have chemstiry with the rest of the squad. He shot just 24.1% from the field, 40% from the line and 30.8% from beyond the arc, averaging 2.5ppg in 15.3mpg. Rough season to be nice. He's also gone. 5 Jakigh Dottin. Averaged 4.1ppg and 1.1apg in 15.2mpg. Shot just 36.4% from the field but he is the answer of a trivia question. Who led the 2020-21 Tigers in three-point shooting percentage? Dottin at 37.5%. Also a solid free throw shooter at 81.3%. Will he be back for his senior season? Not sure, but you can't keep everyone if they already have a commit and are searching for wing transfers. 11 Jason Gibson. Made some small strides in his sophomore season. Averaged 10.1ppg, just 1.9apg on 39.3% field goal shooting and 34.3% 3pt shooting. Struggled with a back injury all season long and practiced very rarely. Then was injured in the first half of the tournament game. Durability question marks will be there. Two new point guards coming in. Might be more of a combo guard coming off the bench. Does struggle with the quicker point guards. 12 Juwan Gray. Avg 7.2ppg and 4.6rpg in 25.6mpg in five games before suffering a career-ending Achilles' injury. They did miss his ability to defend stretch fours and four guard lineups, which all the post players had issues with. 22 Solomon Uyaelunmo. Avg. 6.9pp and 6.rpg in 20.3mpg. Shot 67.9% from the field and 53.8% from the line. Despite struggling his final game and playing in just 12 games due to COVID protocols, showed a soft touch in the paint. Decent rebounder. Ok defender. Not sure his future depends on what his brother does. 23 Darrick Jones Jr. The Oak Hill three-star reserve averaged just 5 minutes per game. Was great in warmups. Also didn't get much time to practice due to various health issues. 25 Nicolas Timberlake. Second on the team with 11.9ppg. Added 4.0 rebounds 35.6% shooting and 32.6% 3pt. Just not effiicent offensive numbers. Has the motor and athleticism was probably hindered by foot issues. Will have surgery in the offseason. Not sure what role will be next season. Your starting 2 or 3 has to be be a more consistent shooter. His motor seems to be better served for bench. Depends on who they bring in, but they are desperate for another wing who can score with better shooting numbers. 32 Charles Thompson. Made all-Defensive team, though still needs work defending the post and players on the perimeter. Did lead team in blocks with 1.6 per gem. In Rebounds with 6.7 per game. Avg 9.5 points on 5% shooting and a solid 64.6% from the line compared to last season's troubles. Is he a role player or potential star? For this team to be competitive next season, he needs to be a more well-rounded offensive player. They need to build the team around him until they can find a guard that's Fobbs-like or hopefully one of the young point guards can step up. 34 Victor Uyaelunmo. Avg. 3.1ppg, 5.7rpg. 0.8 bpg in 16.1mpg. Really disappointing. Of all the transfers, Holand, Allen, Martin, and Mims, big Vic really struggled. Lack of strength hurt him in the post. Not much of a motor. Had all the tools, Nearly 7-feet and athletic. Maybe not great instincts. Again, not everybody is coming back. 35 Chris Biekeu. Avg 2.2ppg and 2.4rpg in 9mpg. Showed some ability in longer stints when Solomon and Victor were out. King of awkward at times. Needs some work on his offensive game. Like most of the bigs, they struggle with putting the ball on the floor and footwork. Needs: Better wing play. More quickness in the backcourt. Better shooting.

They are certainly out there. Former DePaul PG Rashon Burno just got hired at Northern Illinois. There are tons of former players from our generation (mid-90s to early 2000s) who are assistants on college benches that would jump at the opportunity to lead a program. And I'm willing to bet that 99% of them wouldn't rely on defense and rebounding as ways to recruit and try to win games.

I read the information carefully. Does being an awful coach count as being fired with cause?

We can’t get anyone besides goucher to come visit us lol. blah blah blah. Come on! Make changes now. He is a shit coach. Clark. OConell, motos brother, all need to be fired immediately.

we should have just opted out of the season like football did. we'd didn't, so blame has to fall to the leadership. time for PS and TL to go!

Where I stand... I'll start by saying that despite the mess this season was and the no-show today in Harrisonburg, I don't feel like anyone should lose their job after the circumstances of this season. The fact we actually finished the season after three (!!) pauses is a credit to the players and the staff for keeping it together. But that's pretty much where my 'praise' ends. Let's start with Skerry. He's a great guy, very personable, changed the culture with Towson basketball especially academically, and I think he could be an asset as an assistant for a program. But let's face it, this program is bottoming out. The peak ended when we lost to W&M in the semis with Benimon and the second smaller peak was after we won in Belfast to start that season 11-1. Since then, we're 40-62 with 4 straight one-and-dones in the CAA Tournament. That's not continuing to build a program. That's having it infested with termites and mold and watching it fall apart. The reason for this is simple -- recruiting and scheme. Skerry has one way to play and that's defense and rebounding. Unless you're Michigan State or Virginia or Texas Tech (among others), you're not gonna get away with that philosophy with too much success for too long. The modern game has changed too much and we have failed to adapt. As a result, we have NOBODY who can reliably create their own shot and when we do have drive-and-kick situations, it leads to various clanks and clangs from the 3-point line. While Gibson and Timberlake are serviceable players, they are wildly inconsistent from a scoring standpoint. Would they start elsewhere? Highly doubtful. That's not to slight them. But to even an untrained basketball eye, they are not the players you build your team around. Let's look at the transfers that we've brought in -- Holland was a waste for this year and maybe altogether if he doesn't stick around. Allen was very meh. Victor didn't show all that much promise either. We sit in a very fertile HS basketball area between Maryland, DC, Northern Virginia, Philly, and Central Pennsylvania. Surely, we can get into the living rooms of players who are stars on their high school teams rather than taking players who are on nobody's D1 radar. We're a school that the expectation should be come March, they should be one of the three favorites to win the conference tournament EVERY YEAR. With the exception of maybe 2 of those Marchs, we haven't been able to say that. Hell, we're just hoping to stay out of the play-in game. More importantly, let's look at the transfers under Skerry. We've lost Four (grad transfer), Zane (should have never taken him back this year, which I said when it first happened), Gorham, and Betrand. I know there are others but these are the main ones I want to focus on. When you lose players like these, guys who were starters and key contributors, there has to be an underlying reason besides 'I want to play in a bigger conference'. And you look at what happened with Betrand last year with him torching Drexel in Philly and then going completely AWOL on the court the rest of the way, how does that occur? I suspect it all comes back to the leader of the program and the schemes involved. So, it's time for Skerry to be put on notice and if there isn't a significant improvement in 21-22, it's time to eat that buyout and find someone a little bit more dynamic who can inject some life into the program and whatever is left of the fanbase. I'm not gonna stop there. @Royal Tiger brings up a terrific point about the administration. Certainly, I don't even pretend to know the goings-on in the department but if a coaching change is made, I don't really think I want Tim Leonard making that hire. He has gotten women's basketball, women's lacrosse, and volleyball right and extending Nadelen on the men's lax side was the right move. But if you truly want to bolster this athletic department, you have to hit a home run with a hire in your two big-revenue sports. When fans return to games (hopefully next school year), what is going to give anyone any incentive to come to SECU? The athletic department has largely failed at getting people into the seats and it's truly pathetic that a state school with the enrollment that Towson has can't regularly get 60% capacity in a 6,000-seat arena. And before we start with the 'oh there's other stuff to do blah blah blah', go talk to some friends at Grand Canyon and ask them how they do it. I know I've harped about GCU before but their results both on the court and in the stands support my argument. If you can improve the product on the court, you will improve the attendance in the stands and the excitement within the program. But as Royal asked, do they even care? If they don't, then we might as well be Kennesaw State or Delaware State or Mississippi Valley State -- teams that put warm bodies in uniforms with the school name on it and trot them out to get slaughtered on a nightly basis. The title of this thread is 1,491 days. What it should be is 10,950 days....the length of time since we were in the NCAA Tournament. That's a little more than a week short of *30 YEARS*. I've tried to be patient and see the bright side of things because I know how tough it is in a one-bid league, especially with the amount of luck involved in the conference tournaments (look at what happened to both Vermont and UMBC today). But I'm sick and tired of getting to March and having virtually nothing more than a mathematical chance to win the conference and get our name called on Selection Sunday. It's time that this school shares my frustration and gets serious about its basketball program and makes significant improvements.

In terms of being alive when we finally make it back to the Dance, how old are you? 😆 Seriously, you don’t need to answer, it’s just that it’s been what, 30 years, since we made it. It may sound like a flippant comment to say “I hope I’m alive next time we make the Dance,” but, sadly, for those on this board who graduated from TU in the 90’s or earlier, the sand in the hourglass ⏳ continues its relentless passage

Don’t blame the freshmen. They don’t suck because of skerry (yet Atleast) reluctance to change with the times. 48 points against Elon?! Elon?! Jesus Christ. We could get 5 of us on this board and put 48 up against Elon! Pat and Tim are lost and way over their heads. Tu men’s Athletics has been awful recently. The caa has been bad in all sports recently and mens basketball has been average at best over the past decade. And yet we have nothing to show for it except a head coach making 550k+ As one of the 3-4 worst coaches in college basketball same staff for way too long. Fire the lazy assistants. Change is needed.

Maybe the lax coach deserves some of the same criticisms as the basketball coach!

The question I have for the numbskulls who made this decision (cough, Tim Leonard, cough) is what is the cost in dollars to have a moribund basketball program, no hope, no alumni engagement, just a worthless activity run by a failed regime. Whatever money is guaranteed to this guy is already wasted - there is no chance of success. If that is the only cost, then go ahead, let him run this program further into the ditch for 5 more years. But if it is worth anything to the institution to have a basketball team that brings alums together, provides a positive social activity for people based on their connection to the school then its high time to stop throwing away seasons and make a change. I'd love to care about Towson basketball again, but as long as the school doesn't care there is no point in anyone else investing their time or interest either. It won't happen, of course, because the Fordham playbook that dictates decisions these days says athletics are unimportant, a waste of resources, and simply an expense that must be managed to lowest possible number. It not whether you win or lose, but how much you paid to play the games.

Spring practice starts 12 March. There will be team scrimages every Saturday. Last day of Spring Practice is April 10th with a scrimage. As of right now, no spectators are allowed. If that changes, I will post here and let you all know

How bad does everyone want to feel about yesterday’s “effort”?! From Elon: “The 48 points is the fewest allowed in a tournament game since a 52-37 win against Furman in the 2008 SoCon Tourney. The 21-point margin is the widest in a Conference Tourney game since beating Guilford 102-60 in the 1955 North State Conference Tourney.”